Jan 29, 2012, 12:18 PM // 12:18
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Dec 2011
Profession: Mo/
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GvG or RA stuff
Hi all, I watched the mAT of this month and I saw a lot of the "good monks" used a set with a sword/spear and a focus ?
And I just wondered why ? Isn't it better to have a high mana set ?
40/40, 20/40 staff, def set and this "weird" (for me) set.
Hope anybody will answer me
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Jan 29, 2012, 12:44 PM // 12:44
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#2
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Dec 2008
Profession: N/A
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High energy set.
Spear: +5/whatever/+20% enchantment
Offhand: +15/-1 / 20%.
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Jan 29, 2012, 02:41 PM // 14:41
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#3
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Sep 2009
Profession: E/
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Can also be a set used for better chance of faster recharge where cast time doesnt matter, like with aegis or shielding hands.
Sword 20% ench, Let the Memory Live Again insc. Then a regular 20/20 focus.
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Jan 29, 2012, 11:21 PM // 23:21
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#4
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Grotto Attendant
Join Date: Dec 2008
Profession: W/
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not needed unless its a very very dire situation
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Jan 30, 2012, 01:33 AM // 01:33
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: May 2008
Location: In a house
Guild: Proof Of A Nets Laziness[HB]
Profession: A/W
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It's quite useful for prots where most of the skills already have fast casts. Very useful in any situation where faster recharge>faster cast.
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Jan 31, 2012, 11:01 AM // 11:01
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#6
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: England
Guild: Activity Can Be An Issue [afk] / Queen And Country [QC]
Profession: Mo/W
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lil Leena
Can also be a set used for better chance of faster recharge where cast time doesnt matter, like with aegis or shielding hands.
Sword 20% ench, Let the Memory Live Again insc. Then a regular 20/20 focus.
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This is the best answer. It is particularly relevant to skills such as shielding hands, aegis, and aura of stability. Being 1/4s casts, they wont get interupted anyway, so using a fast casting set (such as your staff) is totally unnecessary as you dont gain anything from doing so. Gaining a half recharge on these skills can be incredibly beneficial, so using weapon sets to facilitate this is logical.
Whoever said the set is not needed, i totally disagree with. I actually find it to be the most useful set i have equipped, even if not the most frequently used.
The idea about using it as a kind of high set is also valid, although nobody that i know actually uses this option, instead preferring the half skill recharge + 20% enchantment functionality.
Its worth noting too, that only prot monks run this set, as it would really serve no purpose to a healer. Prot monks take this instead of a 40/40 set.
Prot: 40/20/20 staff, 30/20/20 sword+focus, shield set, high set
Heal: 40/40, 40/20/20 prot staff, shield set, high set
Last edited by floor; Jan 31, 2012 at 11:05 AM // 11:05..
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Feb 02, 2012, 11:09 PM // 23:09
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#7
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Grotto Attendant
Join Date: Dec 2008
Profession: W/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by floor
This is the best answer. It is particularly relevant to skills such as shielding hands, aegis, and aura of stability. Being 1/4s casts, they wont get interupted anyway, so using a fast casting set (such as your staff) is totally unnecessary as you dont gain anything from doing so. Gaining a half recharge on these skills can be incredibly beneficial, so using weapon sets to facilitate this is logical.
Whoever said the set is not needed, i totally disagree with. I actually find it to be the most useful set i have equipped, even if not the most frequently used.
The idea about using it as a kind of high set is also valid, although nobody that i know actually uses this option, instead preferring the half skill recharge + 20% enchantment functionality.
Its worth noting too, that only prot monks run this set, as it would really serve no purpose to a healer. Prot monks take this instead of a 40/40 set.
Prot: 40/20/20 staff, 30/20/20 sword+focus, shield set, high set
Heal: 40/40, 40/20/20 prot staff, shield set, high set
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i was talking about high set
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Feb 03, 2012, 06:29 AM // 06:29
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#8
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Jul 2010
Profession: Me/
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Still useful, especially since most prots don't like a focus+ wand as highset, since you lose the extra 20% enchant, while you can keep it with a sword/spear/axe + focus. another reason is because a wand+ focus will give you -2 energy regen, while sword/spear/axe+ focus gives you only -1 regen.
also everything what floor said is obviously true.
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Feb 03, 2012, 08:30 AM // 08:30
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#9
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: England
Guild: Activity Can Be An Issue [afk] / Queen And Country [QC]
Profession: Mo/W
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Quote:
Originally Posted by superraptors
i was talking about high set
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my apologies, wasnt how it read at first glance.
High set is still useful to have equipped though. In all seriousness i probably go into my highset in no more than 10% of matches, so it doesnt see regular use. I would never go into a game without having it equipped though, because its simply too useful if you should ever need it. + ofc i cant think of a set that you could replace it with which would be more useful, 40/40?? nah.
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Feb 03, 2012, 11:28 AM // 11:28
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#10
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Belgium
Guild: Whats Going On [sup]
Profession: Mo/
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2bad theres no 5th slot avaible, would be usefull to put ur dual vamp-50hp set there (so u don't get timekilled)
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Feb 03, 2012, 11:53 AM // 11:53
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#11
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Grotto Attendant
Join Date: Dec 2008
Profession: W/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by floor
my apologies, wasnt how it read at first glance.
High set is still useful to have equipped though. In all seriousness i probably go into my highset in no more than 10% of matches, so it doesnt see regular use. I would never go into a game without having it equipped though, because its simply too useful if you should ever need it. + ofc i cant think of a set that you could replace it with which would be more useful, 40/40?? nah.
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np i should have been more specific.
but yeh its always good to have it ready when you actually need it, it is much more useful in tombs, as it is 8v8 more regularly than gvg.
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Feb 04, 2012, 03:38 PM // 15:38
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#12
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Dec 2011
Profession: Mo/
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Thanks for answers but a prot 40/40 has still more chances to reload faster isn't it ??
So it's just to have a quite high chance to reload (not the highest : 40% but a high : 30%) and keep having +20% ench.
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Feb 04, 2012, 05:04 PM // 17:04
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#13
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Belgium
Guild: Whats Going On [sup]
Profession: Mo/
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its 36% hsr if u have 40%hsr set
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